Control & Automation

UPDATED: Best Wi-Fi Doorbell Revealed by Clare Controls at ISC West

Of all the Wi-Fi doorbells, the best DIY-type product for the pro channel could be the new Clare Video Doorbell, a slim, smart unit that integrates well with home automation systems and needs only two wires, no transformers. Updated with Q&A.

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Posted by jmcdermott1678 on April 7, 2017

This looks awesome, but how does the communicating with guests work?  Is it an app?  Does the communication integrate with third-party control systems, or just the camera?  WiFi is okay, but it would be nice to have a wired PoE option as well.  Just being picky smile

Posted by Julie Jacobson on April 7, 2017

You’re allowed to be picky! I’ll ask Clare to respond.

Posted by rparker on April 7, 2017

Doorbird can work off two wires too.And doesn’t have a giant logo on the front.

Posted by brandenpro on April 7, 2017

Ditch the logo on the front.  Add POE option, add SIP.  Let me know when that happens and we might take a look.  Doorbird is ok but we have had problems on a few jobs with WiFi.  And purchasing is somewhat problematic.

Posted by TheDarkKnight on April 7, 2017

This looks exactly like the Ring Pro - size, price, 2 wires, 3 color options, drillbit in the box, etc.

Posted by mark at combitech on April 7, 2017

happy with the doorbird, no issues but agreed the wifi set up isnt ideal. No problems purchasing either…..tons of options. I do like the edge recording and yes thumbs down on the big logo. Nice looking and decent bezel options.

Posted by PHAND on April 7, 2017

Teleport from Logenex also does ONVIF and works great with NVRs, but does not do Wifi.

Posted by iKnowTech on April 8, 2017

I would definitely say there are lots of other video intercom systems that support ONVIF, including Axis, 2N, Mobotix, Holovision, Siedel,  to name just a few.  Also while ONVIF may make this device compatible with lots of NVR devices, ONVIF does little to make the device compatible with Automation systems, beyond just viewing the video feed?    Is there an API/SDK available for this?

Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see any mention or obvious location for a speaker on this unit, maybe its on the bottom?  There is also no mention of how one would communicate with the person at the door, is it a proprietary mobile app?  If its via a proprietary app, how is the connection to a mobile device made, is Clare Controls running their own proxy/relay infrastructure in the cloud?  Is managing a Cloud infrastructure an area Clare Controls has any experience with?

As others have mentioned without SIP, this pretty much excludes this from being a consideration in any type of high end custom installation.

That said at $249, this device is nowhere near the price point of those types of higher end systems. 

Coming out of the gate saying this is the “Best Wi-Fi doorbell on the Planet” is a pretty bold statement, I would expect a lot more details on how this works to back that statement up.  If you ask me, at this price point, and what information you have shared, this is definitely seems more in the DIY category with Ring, the late Skybell, and August I would say, than something that would be taken very seriously in the custom integrators realm.

Posted by JeremyA on April 8, 2017

Hey guys!  We this product bridges the gap between the DIY products and the higher end systems.  See the answers to your questions below.  Hope this helps!

Q:  Is there an API/SDK available for this?
A:  Yes, it will be available in May.

Q:  Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see any mention or obvious location for a speaker on this unit, maybe its on the bottom? 
A:  Yes, the speaker is on the bottom.

Q:  There is also no mention of how one would communicate with the person at the door, is it a proprietary mobile app? 
A:  Yes, we provide a free proprietary app.

Q:  Is managing a Cloud infrastructure an area Clare Controls has any experience with?
A:  Yes…We are a software company.

Q:  Does the communication integrate with third-party control systems?
A:  Yes, the API will be available in May.

Q:  Does it support SIP?
A:  It does not support SIP.

Features:
No monthly fees!
1080p Resolution
Upgradeable storage
Works will all doorbells(analog & digital)
Rings the doorbell
Works with NVR’s
Open API (available in May)

Posted by Julie Jacobson on April 8, 2017

Thanks, Jeremy—And more:

What kind of data can be shared from the product to third-party systems via API? Button presses? Sensor data? (use as PIR for front door?).

If you’re not SIP, is there a way to support two-way communications through third-party systems?

Can you be more specific about what this product can accomplish over 2 wires that competitors can’t? They all claim to work over existing 2 wires.

thx

Posted by JeremyA on April 9, 2017

Q:  What kind of data can be shared from the product to third-party systems via API? Button presses? Sensor data? (use as PIR for front door?).

A:  Button presses, motion events, audio & video streams.

Q:  If you’re not SIP, is there a way to support two-way communications through third-party systems?

A:  Yes, this will be available in the API.

Q:  Can you be more specific about what this product can accomplish over 2 wires that competitors can’t? They all claim to work over existing 2 wires.

A:  All competitors do claim to work over existing wiring. However some do not ring the existing door chime and others require additional parts to be installed at the chime. Our product rings all existing door chimes and does not require any additional parts. 

Posted by Julie Jacobson on April 9, 2017

Awesome, Jeremy. Thanks. I’ll add these Q&A to the story.

Posted by mark at combitech on April 10, 2017

Have to agree with Iknowtech, although I’m still puzzled how a 2 wire solution that needs to power the unit can ring the bell at the same from a press of the button without loosing power and therefore network…. Am I missing something?

Posted by Bill Sheppard on April 10, 2017

Mark, perhaps a battery or capacitor in the unit which sustains power during the button press…

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Posted by Bill Sheppard on April 10, 2017

Mark, perhaps a battery or capacitor in the unit which sustains power during the button press…

Posted by mark at combitech on April 10, 2017

Have to agree with Iknowtech, although I’m still puzzled how a 2 wire solution that needs to power the unit can ring the bell at the same from a press of the button without loosing power and therefore network…. Am I missing something?

Posted by Julie Jacobson on April 9, 2017

Awesome, Jeremy. Thanks. I’ll add these Q&A to the story.

Posted by JeremyA on April 9, 2017

Q:  What kind of data can be shared from the product to third-party systems via API? Button presses? Sensor data? (use as PIR for front door?).

A:  Button presses, motion events, audio & video streams.

Q:  If you’re not SIP, is there a way to support two-way communications through third-party systems?

A:  Yes, this will be available in the API.

Q:  Can you be more specific about what this product can accomplish over 2 wires that competitors can’t? They all claim to work over existing 2 wires.

A:  All competitors do claim to work over existing wiring. However some do not ring the existing door chime and others require additional parts to be installed at the chime. Our product rings all existing door chimes and does not require any additional parts. 

Posted by Julie Jacobson on April 8, 2017

Thanks, Jeremy—And more:

What kind of data can be shared from the product to third-party systems via API? Button presses? Sensor data? (use as PIR for front door?).

If you’re not SIP, is there a way to support two-way communications through third-party systems?

Can you be more specific about what this product can accomplish over 2 wires that competitors can’t? They all claim to work over existing 2 wires.

thx

Posted by JeremyA on April 8, 2017

Hey guys!  We this product bridges the gap between the DIY products and the higher end systems.  See the answers to your questions below.  Hope this helps!

Q:  Is there an API/SDK available for this?
A:  Yes, it will be available in May.

Q:  Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see any mention or obvious location for a speaker on this unit, maybe its on the bottom? 
A:  Yes, the speaker is on the bottom.

Q:  There is also no mention of how one would communicate with the person at the door, is it a proprietary mobile app? 
A:  Yes, we provide a free proprietary app.

Q:  Is managing a Cloud infrastructure an area Clare Controls has any experience with?
A:  Yes…We are a software company.

Q:  Does the communication integrate with third-party control systems?
A:  Yes, the API will be available in May.

Q:  Does it support SIP?
A:  It does not support SIP.

Features:
No monthly fees!
1080p Resolution
Upgradeable storage
Works will all doorbells(analog & digital)
Rings the doorbell
Works with NVR’s
Open API (available in May)

Posted by iKnowTech on April 8, 2017

I would definitely say there are lots of other video intercom systems that support ONVIF, including Axis, 2N, Mobotix, Holovision, Siedel,  to name just a few.  Also while ONVIF may make this device compatible with lots of NVR devices, ONVIF does little to make the device compatible with Automation systems, beyond just viewing the video feed?    Is there an API/SDK available for this?

Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see any mention or obvious location for a speaker on this unit, maybe its on the bottom?  There is also no mention of how one would communicate with the person at the door, is it a proprietary mobile app?  If its via a proprietary app, how is the connection to a mobile device made, is Clare Controls running their own proxy/relay infrastructure in the cloud?  Is managing a Cloud infrastructure an area Clare Controls has any experience with?

As others have mentioned without SIP, this pretty much excludes this from being a consideration in any type of high end custom installation.

That said at $249, this device is nowhere near the price point of those types of higher end systems. 

Coming out of the gate saying this is the “Best Wi-Fi doorbell on the Planet” is a pretty bold statement, I would expect a lot more details on how this works to back that statement up.  If you ask me, at this price point, and what information you have shared, this is definitely seems more in the DIY category with Ring, the late Skybell, and August I would say, than something that would be taken very seriously in the custom integrators realm.

Posted by PHAND on April 7, 2017

Teleport from Logenex also does ONVIF and works great with NVRs, but does not do Wifi.

Posted by mark at combitech on April 7, 2017

happy with the doorbird, no issues but agreed the wifi set up isnt ideal. No problems purchasing either…..tons of options. I do like the edge recording and yes thumbs down on the big logo. Nice looking and decent bezel options.

Posted by TheDarkKnight on April 7, 2017

This looks exactly like the Ring Pro - size, price, 2 wires, 3 color options, drillbit in the box, etc.

Posted by brandenpro on April 7, 2017

Ditch the logo on the front.  Add POE option, add SIP.  Let me know when that happens and we might take a look.  Doorbird is ok but we have had problems on a few jobs with WiFi.  And purchasing is somewhat problematic.

Posted by rparker on April 7, 2017

Doorbird can work off two wires too.And doesn’t have a giant logo on the front.

Posted by Julie Jacobson on April 7, 2017

You’re allowed to be picky! I’ll ask Clare to respond.

Posted by jmcdermott1678 on April 7, 2017

This looks awesome, but how does the communicating with guests work?  Is it an app?  Does the communication integrate with third-party control systems, or just the camera?  WiFi is okay, but it would be nice to have a wired PoE option as well.  Just being picky smile